Daily Special, June 2, 2012

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There’s a buncha stuff this morning to talk about. First of all, the NFL claims to have a copy of a “ledger” the Saints kept to record its “bounty” payouts—including injuries, and specifically cartoffs.

The first question I have is: how did they get it? If such a ledger actually existed, its possession by the NFL would pretty much doom any efforts by either players or coaches to defend themselves against the charges. And knowing that the NFL had the ledger would call for completely different behavior on their parts, wouldn’t you think? And knowing that such a ledger existed would inspire among all concerned a very strong suspicion that the NFL had it, woudn’t you think? There is a complete disconnect between the existence of documentary evidence providing names, dates, and amounts, and the adamant protestations of innocence among the accused players. It would be like denying you ever paid for a login to “Hot Super-Plus Grannies” when you know your wife has the credit card bill.

Be that as it may…

The news reports specifically mentioned the 2009 season (and the player punishments were all for that season anyway), so I went through every game on NFL’s GameCenter play-by-play. They note every injury, and usually give an assessment (return probable, questionable, etc.) Ignoring any injury to the Saints, and ignoring any defensive injury to an opponent, what we’re left with is this:

  • New York Giants: Brandon Jacobs was forced from the game early in the second quarter. He returned to open the second half. More significantly, Kareem McKenzie was injured and carted off when Roman Harper forced an Eli Manning fumble, and the scramble for the ball rolled up McKenzie from behind. Who might possibly have been credited with a cartoff is an open question.
  • Atlanta Falcons: Harvey Dahl was injured at the beginning of the 4th quarter. His return was listed as probable. There’s no explanation of what happened (he’s just an offensive lineman, after all).
  • St. Louis: Kennan Burton injured his knee when he fell awkwardly during Usama Young’s interception in the end zone. Burton was later placed on injured reserve. He was untouched by any Saint.
  • New England: Stephen Neal was injured in the second quarter. As with Dahl, he was listed as probable, but there is no further mention of him.
  • Washington: Antwaan Randle El injured his shoulder when he fell on it following a deep reception the last play of the third quarter. He was listed as questionable, and in fact did not return—though he played the next week.
  • Tampa Bay: Earnest Graham tore a ligament in a toe (an obviously deliberate target, that one) during the Bucs’ overtime drive. He was placed on IR following the game.
  • Arizona: Kurt Warner was knocked into the next time zone by Bobby McCray on a perfectly legitimate hit. He was listed as questionable, but in fact returned.

And that’s it. (Brett Favre, remember, was forced from the field by a change of possession, and missed no snaps at all.) Throughout the entire course of a “bounty” season, those are the only offensive injuries recorded by NFL’s GameCenter.

As things stand now, in the immortal words of the Man From Kansas, “I’m calling bullshit.”

Onwards. Sean Pamphilon is in the news again. This time he claims that…well, hell, you read it. In the immortal words of the Man From New Orleans, “Better you than me.” But while you’re at it, also read the assessment by Jimbo03 at Canal Street Chronicles (it’s the big green block). It provides needed perspective. And if you have any questions for Pamphilon, submit them to AngryWhoDat, who I would bet is angry over this whole circus.

Jermichael Decorean Finley is not convinced that Jimmy Graham is the real deal. This despite being outplayed by Jimmy Graham over the course of…well, a career. I suppose Jermichael’s problem (other than having a shitty name) is that he plays the game, so he doesn’t get to watch it. Anyone who does, and pays attention, can see the difference between Graham (and Gronkowski) and Finley.

And Pete Prisco puts everyone on notice: Matt Ryan = Peyton Manning. Trust him on this one.

On the Jukebox

Scouring the world to bring you the offscourings of the world. Yesterday, we gave you that fine Swedish accordion. Today, how about Bobby Hebert doing his best Louie Armstrong? And how about that prediction?

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  • BewareofDogJune 2, 2012 at 11:13 am

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    Asshat

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  • PhilistineJune 2, 2012 at 12:06 pm

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    Bobby does a pretty fair Louie. I wish I could, but every time I try, I trigger a coughing fit.

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  • stujo4June 2, 2012 at 6:02 pm

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    AGAIN with the Jimbo3? 2 days in a row?

    If we’re going to recycle, let’s review all the Saints fans demanding to see “proof”. Admission of guilt in some respect by the GM, the head coach, the defensive coordinator, and at least one player is not enough? Will the ledger satisfy you? Or are you like John Birch Society members, or Donald Trump/Orly Taitz “birthers”, in that no amount of facts or evidence will sway you from your deeply held beliefs?

    Why can’t we be like post antebellum slave holders and just put all this behind us and move on? Oh…

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    • HimselfJune 2, 2012 at 6:54 pm

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      Let me explode Stu’s head here:

      Obama’s birth certificate is a forgery. Book it.

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      • cc58June 2, 2012 at 7:55 pm

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        Show us the evidence..

        Obama’s birth certificate is a forgery. Book it.

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        • HimselfJune 2, 2012 at 10:05 pm

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          Dang it, cc58, you set off the trap. Now I have to re-bait it.

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    • Breesus Christ SuperstarJune 3, 2012 at 1:09 am

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      Yes, again with the Jimbo3. We’re stalling until Wang gets his ass in gear and posts something. Who knows? You might even get another mention.

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      • stujo4June 3, 2012 at 12:52 pm

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        I’ll never know if I get a mention unless you tell me. And can’t we set our messianic requirements a little higher than him/her? Jesus1000 indeed.

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  • Just Nother DayJune 2, 2012 at 9:52 pm

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    Have any of you been checking out Mike (cough, cough) Florio’s latest stuff? He seems to be leaning away from the “shield.” I love the fact that he threw Jason Cole under the bus. (Must have felt like a really big bump in the road!)

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    • BewareofDogJune 2, 2012 at 10:37 pm

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      Yeah….he’s actually been leaning away from the NFL’s version of this “BountyFarce” nonsense for a while now. He did a radio interview during the 1st week of May in which he questioned the alleged evidence that the NFL released and also their true motives for going after the Saints so hard.

      It’s the lawyer in him coming out. After swallowing the NFL’s story whole (which he admitted), he started questioning what was really there after these so-called “smoking-gun” documents that were released/leaked were not at all what the NFL claimed.

      During that interview, he said that he would find it difficult to accept the NFL’s word again at face value and he’s been questioning their releases/leaks ever since.

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  • SaintsW1nJune 3, 2012 at 2:07 pm

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    I just wanted to this right here.

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    • SaintsW1nJune 3, 2012 at 2:08 pm

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      Apparently, I forgot the word “leave” in the above attempt to build a sentence.

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      • SaintsW1nJune 3, 2012 at 2:09 pm

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        As an addendum, Leon Russell is one bad motherfucker.

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        • Doc BoudinJune 3, 2012 at 11:14 pm

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          I thought Lee Marvin was dead?

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    • stujo4June 3, 2012 at 2:41 pm

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      HA!

      “good cover, but prefer the bryan ferry version”
      sandkombi

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  • stujo4June 3, 2012 at 2:52 pm

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    Here’s one that makes suzjo yell “You’re KILLING me over here!” Give it 30 seconds, it’s the vocal/bass/drums only channel. No need for autotune, she can actually sing.

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    • HimselfJune 3, 2012 at 4:29 pm

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      Too bad she couldn’t eat.

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  • stujo4June 3, 2012 at 2:54 pm

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    Back to the grind.

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    • HimselfJune 3, 2012 at 4:28 pm

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      Ah, Neil Young. Couldn’t sing, couldn’t play, couldn’t write, couldn’t get a spot on my jukebox in a million years. Even these guys are ahead of Neil Young.

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      • stujo4June 3, 2012 at 6:25 pm

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        Big difference: You don’t have to smoke a ton of dope to enjoy Neil Young. Although it might help in your case. Shakey was Rolling Stone’s 1970′s artist of the decade. Led Zeppelin? Ignored.

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        • HimselfJune 3, 2012 at 7:38 pm

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          You pay attention to Rolling Stone? It’s worse than I thought.

          And I think what you meant was: not even a ton of dope can help you enjoy Neil Young. Unless you like the aural equivalent of a root canal without anesthesia (oh yeah, the dope).

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      • AcquiredPanicJune 3, 2012 at 9:28 pm

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        Ive actually tried to make myself like the Grateful Dead just because several friends of mine have them on an extremely high pedestal…..It burns my fucking ears…..can’t do it.

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        • BewareofDogJune 3, 2012 at 9:52 pm

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          It’s supposed to burn your ears. The Grateful Dead weren’t really a band. They were an experience.

          An experience that I have been able to avoid since I last popped a tab in ’69.

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          • AcquiredPanicJune 3, 2012 at 10:15 pm

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            Didn’t take you as a tab dropper dog, lol. Tell me more about your wild days……or are u still in your wild days?

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            • BewareofDogJune 3, 2012 at 11:19 pm

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              Those wild days are long gone.

              Actually, I was a fairly conservative young man. It was my wife who was the rebel. Oh my goodness, the stuff that woman used to get me into when we were kids. Of course, I did it all for the nookie. Well, to tell you the truth it was her ass. That woman had an ass on her that would blow the wig off your dome. She still does, as matter of fact. She’s 59 years old but she still gets hoots and hollers from all the young bucks over at her gym.

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              • AcquiredPanicJune 4, 2012 at 9:18 am

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                Was that a Limp Bizkit reference thrown in there, lol? You don’t go to the gym and workout with her? I cannot stand going to the gym…..I would rather eat, drink, and be merry.

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                • BewareofDogJune 4, 2012 at 12:13 pm

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                  Nah….she goes to a “Health Spa”. I’m a pure 20th century, prehistoric male. I don’t do “spas”.

                  Plus, all of her friends are there. They meet, get on the treadmills or ellipticals together, cackle like hens, and then go grab some lunch. When she was having an issue with this one young guy who just couldn’t take a hint, she did ask me to make a cameo appearance just to send the kid a message. Also, I got to meet her spa pals. Those gals are a riot.

                  I usually train at home, where I have a fully equipped gym with commercial grade strength-training equipment from my days as a trainer.

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                  • AcquiredPanicJune 4, 2012 at 2:58 pm

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                    Oh shit…..I’ll treat Kat like a princess….promise.

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          • Doc BoudinJune 3, 2012 at 11:08 pm

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            I get along pretty well with the Dead. But they should be taken sparingly and selectively. Much like the aforementioned tabs.

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      • metrymanJune 4, 2012 at 4:31 pm

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        Sure is a lot of “Anti Neil Young Activism” around here, you’d think he was Canadian.

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  • stujo4June 3, 2012 at 8:03 pm

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    Yeah, that’s right. Subscriber since 1975. Not that I’ve enjoyed all of it.

    No, I said what I meant about the dope. And again, why do you think they call it dope? At least Neil didn’t have to resort to black magic innuendo, stealing lyrics from Tolkien, and spreading rumors about violating Seattle’s little girls with sharks in order to sell records like your beloved ones.

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    • HimselfJune 3, 2012 at 9:27 pm

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      The Beatles did all that?

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      • stujo4June 3, 2012 at 9:47 pm

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        Why don’t you go squeeze your lemon? And I prefer that Howlin’ Wolf be my back door man, thanks anyway.

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        • metrymanJune 4, 2012 at 4:44 pm

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          Yes, “Killing Floor”….. love the “Wolf’s” version. “Poor Boy”,”Shake for Me”, “Three Hundred Pounds of Joy”, and ‘Back Door Man” are in my current rotation.

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    • AcquiredPanicJune 3, 2012 at 9:29 pm

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      Are we really trying to compare Neil Young to Zeppelin? Is this even possible?

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      • stujo4June 3, 2012 at 9:45 pm

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        Well of course it’s not. Thank you.

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        • AcquiredPanicJune 3, 2012 at 10:12 pm

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          Guess I should have been more specific…..Neil Young sucks

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          • stujo4June 3, 2012 at 11:13 pm

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            Hey aren’t you the guy who said that Picasso was a piece of shit? Maybe you can go squeeze M-E’s lemon.

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            • stujo4June 3, 2012 at 11:15 pm

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              You know, that Bob Dylan guy is a fucking charlatan too. Can’t sing, can’t play, and his songs don’t make any sense. That’s my fart blowing in the wind, pal.

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              • stujo4June 3, 2012 at 11:17 pm

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                You know who fucking rocks? Van Halen with Roth, man. I can’t wait for the tour to start up again.

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                • stujo4June 3, 2012 at 11:20 pm

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                  But seriously, you’re still fucking peasants as far as I can see.

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                  • Doc BoudinJune 3, 2012 at 11:36 pm

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                    Oh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw him, Didn't you?

                    Come see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

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                    • Just Nother DayJune 4, 2012 at 7:28 am

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                      Thanks, Doc Monty!

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                • metrymanJune 4, 2012 at 4:20 pm

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                  “Gimme a Jelly Donut, and a bottle of anything…..to go!- DLR
                  and if you want some more Diamond Dave fun, just Google… David Lee Roth Soundboard. Start clicking.

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            • Doc BoudinJune 3, 2012 at 11:29 pm

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              Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole…

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              • metrymanJune 4, 2012 at 4:23 pm

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                that’s the best song off of the “Repo Man” soundtrack

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  • GSO Saints FanJune 4, 2012 at 1:05 am

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    So, not only is Stewie-poo a raging asshat, he has zero taste in music…Neil Young? Really?!?! I’d rather listen to cats fight, it would have more melody and a less insipid harmonic structure. As for Dylan, he should stick to writing poetry, his monotonous whine is nearly as ear-damaging as the mewling nonsense Young tortures auditory nerves with. Heck, I’d almost rather listen to Yoko Ono sing…..almost. (I still maintain that Chapman just had good musical taste and a tragically bad aim)

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    • stujo4June 4, 2012 at 9:20 am

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      You can go back to practicing your Michael Anthony bass solos now.

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      • HimselfJune 4, 2012 at 11:31 am

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        There’s this joke. My bass teacher told me this.

        An explorer was making his way through deepest, darkest Africa, accompanied by a long line of bearers and a native guide. A few miles into the jungle they started to hear drums. The explorer nervously asked the guide what it meant.

        “No big deal,” said the guide. “We still safe. When drums stop, that when you worry.”

        So they continued on their way, and the drums keep getting louder and louder. Every once in awhile the explorer would sidle up to the guide for reassurance, and the answer was always the same: “When drums stop, that when you worry.”

        They marched on and on, and the drums became almost deafening, coming from all sides. Then they came to a clearing, and abruptly the drumming stopped. The explorer watched as all the bearers shrugged away their loads and dropped to the ground, arms over their heads. He ran frantically to the guide, who was crouched down with his hands over his ears.

        “The drums stopped! What does it mean? What happens now?”

        The guide looked up with an expression of utter misery, and said, “Bass solo!”

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      • GSO Saints FanJune 4, 2012 at 11:23 pm

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        I’m too busy working up Portrait Of Tracy and playing through The Meters catalog for that right now.

        Oh and 5 favorite rock-pop-funk bands:

        Rush (proof that there are Canadians that can play their instruments competently, actually write good music and perform it well, and….well I’ll give Geddy Lee as an acquired taste vocally – but at least he can sing in tune)

        The Meters

        Queen

        King Crimson (all the variants, but particularly the Discipline-Beat-Three Of A Perfect Pair period)

        The Funk Brothers (the original Motown-Tamla Records studio band, and particularly James Jamerson)

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  • HimselfJune 4, 2012 at 8:26 am

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    Wow. Never know where these conversations will go. Thanks again, Stu, for making this site relevant.

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    • stujo4June 4, 2012 at 9:15 am

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      It’s my pleasure, believe me.

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      • AcquiredPanicJune 4, 2012 at 9:19 am

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        What’s your top 5 favorite bands Stu? All time not just right now.

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        • stujo4June 4, 2012 at 9:25 am

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          I don’t believe in that ranking shit. But I know what I like. And I know there hasn’t been a good band come along since Nirvana. I blame ronald Reagan.

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        • stujo4June 4, 2012 at 9:27 am

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          Beatles
          Kinks
          Neil young
          Crowded house
          Gurf morlix

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          • stujo4June 4, 2012 at 9:30 am

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            I knew I was headed for disaster when Mr. Dave told me he was a Stones fan. Mick is a little too hard on the women for my taste.

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            • AcquiredPanicJune 4, 2012 at 9:37 am

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              Never been big on the stones. “Paint it Black” would probably be the only song I could say I was a fan of.

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              • stujo4June 4, 2012 at 9:58 am

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                Hey, I don’t switch the station when they come on. And I do own Exile On Main Street. I’m still waiting for someone to explain that one to me.

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                • metrymanJune 4, 2012 at 5:08 pm

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                  The B-Sides (Deluxe Disc 2) needs explaining…… albeit wine, cognac, cocaine, and heroin had something to do with it, but hey Richards’ guitar was/is always out of tune No wonder it was left off the original 18 song album, but there are a few hits mixed into that “Memphis/Delta Blues” sound. It’s in my car right now, mof.

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          • AcquiredPanicJune 4, 2012 at 9:34 am

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            Gonna have to check out the last two……not familiar with them

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            • stujo4June 4, 2012 at 10:04 am

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              Holy crap. I’ve got a framed tour poster of Crowded House in my office. It’s 0 for 9, or so. “Who’s Crowded House?” M-E and I have gone around on this before. They could have been as big as the Beatles, in an ’80′s fashion. Neil Finn is a genius.

              Gurf was Lucinda Williams’ guitarist and producer until they creatively and literally split over Car Wheels On A Gravel Road. He started a new career as a solo artist at age 50 or something. He’s as authentic as anyone can be (except for his name). I’ve seen him perform several times in Texas, OK City and KC. I told him if he was managed properly (he’s self-managed, oops) he could be as big as Neil Young. He looked at me and smiled and said “I don’t WANT to be Neil Young.” I said, “Gurf…. GAAAA!!!!”

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              • AcquiredPanicJune 4, 2012 at 12:04 pm

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                Gurf morlix sounds it should be one of the death metal bands I listen to.

                You don’t like Lynyrd Skynyrd at all? I was taken to many a Skynyrd concert as a kid (dad was a big fan) or whatever variation of their lineup they had going at the time.

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                • stujo4June 4, 2012 at 8:13 pm

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                  Those dumb rednecks didn’t need me or Neil Young around anyhow.

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                  • AcquiredPanicJune 4, 2012 at 9:04 pm

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                    Ha!!!

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              • metrymanJune 4, 2012 at 5:36 pm

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                Crowded House, Finn Bros. hardly get any LOVE, heck I saw Split Enz Live in the 80′s. Great Show.

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          • HimselfJune 4, 2012 at 11:24 am

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            Beatles

            Then a gap about as wide as a galaxy, and

            Genesis (Peter Gabriel version)
            Led Zeppelin
            Jethro Tull (up until about Warchild)
            Yes

            Gosh…all English, all before mid-70s. What, no New Orleans artists? Well…hell, I’m busted.

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            • stujo4June 4, 2012 at 11:55 am

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              They jumped the shark when the marmots came out of the sky and stood there.

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              • HimselfJune 4, 2012 at 1:23 pm

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                It sure was one hell of a jump. Their next album was one of the greatest ever recorded.

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                • stujo4June 4, 2012 at 2:14 pm

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                  In your head.

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                  • HimselfJune 4, 2012 at 4:21 pm

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                    The head that counts.

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                  • AcquiredPanicJune 4, 2012 at 6:17 pm

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                    I’ve had that “Cranberries” song “Zombie” stuck in my head ever since reading this comment.

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            • AcquiredPanicJune 4, 2012 at 11:56 am

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              I’m not even gonna bother listing mine…..let’s just say we all enjoy what we grew up listening to. Funny how that works….I can’t stand anything new that has come out in the past ten years.

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              • HimselfJune 4, 2012 at 1:21 pm

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                I wonder how much of that is because 99% of new “music” the past ten years seems to be hip hop.

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                • stujo4June 4, 2012 at 2:14 pm

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                  20 years

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                • AcquiredPanicJune 4, 2012 at 2:56 pm

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                  Can’t stand hip hop. I went through an Insane Clown Posse phase when I was a teenager and I’m not exactly proud of it. Sadly…..pictures do exist.

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                  • metrymanJune 4, 2012 at 5:43 pm

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                    What, no Beastie Boys, PE, NWA, Fat Boys, Snoop & Dre. ICP was kind of the ‘KISS’ of hip-hop. Kinda novelty.

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                    • AcquiredPanicJune 4, 2012 at 6:14 pm

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                      I suppose Bone Thugs n Harmony would be my favorite rap group if I had to choose one (they are extremely talented) but I’ve always been a metal head.

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          • metrymanJune 6, 2012 at 4:19 pm

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            That latest Gurf is A+++, Blaze Foley still lives!

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