Daily Special, August 31, 2012

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Well, that’s it. The preseason is finally over, and the real game is about to begin. Pretty soon, we’ll get to find out if all the expense of spirit was worth it or not.

Oh, and the Saints lost their last exhibition game to the Titans. Big deal.

Did you think I was talking about what happened on the field? No, I was referring to Jonathan Vilma’s appeal in New York yesterday. Everything may hinge on the decision of a couple of superannuated judges and a law professor. That’s kinda like sending Neal Olkewicz, Benny Blades, and Bill Belichick onto the field to get you a critical stop. On the other hand, the other team has Jimmy Clausen at quarterback, so there’s hope.

What went on at the hearing? No one knows except those in the room, and they’re not saying anything. “Panel members say they’ll try to issue an opinion next week,” according to the Associated Press. I’ve always wondered about this. Does it take me a week to form an opinion about anything? Ever? Not to the best of my recollection. If it were a jury taking its own sweet time like this, the judge would send in the bailiffs with a Diehard and a couple of wet sponges. But judges get to spend time like it’s tax revenue. They must be on expense accounts.

What the NFLPA was arguing, on behalf of all the suspended players, was essentially that arbitrator Stephen Burbank choked when he ruled that Roger Goodell was the proper person to impose discipline on the players implicated in the Bounty scandal, because their behavior represented “conduct detrimental to the league.” The union is arguing that what they’re accused of doing took place on the field, and that according to the CBA such conduct must be reviewed by an impartial arbitrator, not Goodell.

Well…I dunno. Apparently a lot of it took place in the locker room, too. And at the bank. Maybe the NFL actually has a case. I know, I feel so dirty saying that…but it’s all determined by the actual wording in the CBA, which I haven’t seen, and which might as well be in medieval Lithuanian for all I understand of legal matters. Nor do I even understand why the NFLPA thought in the first place that this was something they could agree to: commissioner of the league can issue punishment if you screw up in your private life, but not if you do something heinous during a game? What?

At any rate, Mike Florio has already weighed in on the strong possibility that the suspensions will be overturned…apparently, no matter what the appeal panel’s ruling is, or even if the ruling isn’t delivered before the season starts. And that will have some impact on the Saints’ final roster—but unfortunately, they’ll have to make their final cuts before knowing how any of this will play out. Everyone is assuming that if Vilma is freed, he’ll simply be put on the PUP list to begin the season…but I’m not certain you can do that. Wouldn’t he have to be activated first? In other words, put on the active, 53-man roster, and then moved to the PUP list? And to do that, you have to waive one of your players. And what if that player gets claimed? Friar Bob, help me out here.

And, of course, we have a late spate of injuries to deal with. That meaningless loss in a meaningless game gave us injuries to both Joe Morgan and Travaris Cadet. Maybe that will make the decisions easier, actually. Will it make things easier knowing that “splendid” rookie Nick Toon caught two passes for six yards?

Well…final cut-downs are today, so we’ll know soon. And then it’s time for Joe Vitt and Mickey Loomis to begin their vacations. We enter the Aaron Kromer Era. This offseason has been crazy. The beginning of the season is like giving acid to a crazy person. Will it make things worse, better? Could you tell? We’re about to find out.

On the Jukebox

Ah, acid. I would hate to try to determine a final roster while the room was expanding, but it sure would make whatever was on the jukebox sound outstanding. Hey, wow man, that rhymes! Faaaarrr out.

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  • cc58August 31, 2012 at 12:04 pm

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    The Active PUP is for players that have some form of injury that will prevent them from starting training camp.

    If placed on Active PUP, a player can rehab and participate in team meetings but cannot practice.

    A player has to be placed on Active PUP before he begins training camp, so that’s why you’re seeing the stories popping up now.

    A player on Active PUP can be removed from the list at any time during camp.

    A player on Active PUP counts against the league mandated roster limit (currently 80).

    And one of the most important rules, a player must be on Active PUP in order to be considered for Reserve PUP.

    At the end of preseason, if an Active PUP player is still several weeks away from being able to play, the team may place him on Reserve PUP.

    Reserve PUP players are not eligible to play for the first six weeks of the season.

    Reserve PUP players do not count against the 53 man roster.

    Reserve PUP players have a three week window after Week 6 to practice with the team but a roster decision must be made, either to activate to the 53 or to IR the player, within that timeframe.

    Now that doesn’t address putting a suspended player on PUP this late, so I don’t know how that would work. Think he should have be listed as PUP before camp began, but don’t know if circumstances change that.

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    • FriarBobAugust 31, 2012 at 4:31 pm

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      Nuts I’d forgotten about that. I’d been assuming he’d go on PUP and that was the end of it. But yeah he would have to have been designated as Active/PUP. On the other hand, that’s exactly what he would have been designated had he not been forced by Pinochet to be on Reserve/Suspended instead. So it’s clearly where he SHOULD go.

      Can we find a way for it to still work out? Well, like all legal crap, the precise language says before HE begins training camp, not before training camp itself. That could very easily be argued (possibly before yet another judge or at least arbitrator, oh joy!) that means as of the time he reports to the team. Which he hasn’t been able to do, because he’s been on suspension. So in theory that would mean he would be able to be designated as Active/PUP and then immediately moved to Reserve/PUP. But they’d probably have to get another judge to twist Adolf’s arm off before that was allowed. :(

      And yeah, since he would have to count against the 80 90 man roster limit, he’d also presumably have to count against the 53-man limit. On the other hand, there is a huge amount of precedent for a team signing a player and then moving the player they are replacing to waivers (or IR) after the actual signing is completed. I think they can (essentially) temporarily exceed 53 so long as they immediately get back under it by completing whatever other moves are necessary before the close of the league office for the day. Of course, under the circumstances, that might require yet a third judge to twist Augusto’s leg into a pretzel along with his arm before they were allowed to do what every other team in the league is allowed to do without even blinking.

      In other words… I think I know what SHOULD happen. But I can’t give any guarantees.

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  • cc58August 31, 2012 at 2:21 pm

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    Good news straight from J Pat’s twitter account last night after the game…

    I am 100% ok…Ready for Washington September 9th goodnight. #WHODATNATION

    #wegotthis
    No Mercy ~ 2012
    Do Your Job ~ Sean Payton

    by vjdancer on Aug 31, 2012 12:46 PM CDT reply actions

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  • PhilistineSeptember 1, 2012 at 3:11 pm

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    I got my power back! WHO-HOO!

    Was there a football game this weekend?

    Actually, I listened to the game – most of it, it was a little boring in spots, and I had a few other things to attend to. I thought Canfield did pretty well, considering he was playing with a bunch of other third-stringers, but I’m not surprised they let him go. They’ll sign him back to the practice squad – probably three or four times during the season at least. Toon – well, he ended up in about as good a place as could be expected, considering how little he played this preseason and how ineffective his performance when he was on the field. Matt Tennant – now there’s someone who would qualify as a bust if he had been drafted a little higher; but, as a fifth-rounder, I guess we shouldn’t expect so much – after all, Antonio Pittman was a fourth-rounder and couldn’t even make the practice squad.

    Well, I hope that all of us here at WDSC who were in the path of Isaac get back in business soon. I hunkered down, as they say, and questioned that decision on a number of occasions, particularly late at night when the heat made it hard to sleep – as did the sound of one of my post oaks falling on my next-door neighbor’s garage – oops, sorry, Craig. Let me help you cut that up.

    Real football one week away – does anybody else here think it feels like it’s been about three years since we saw real football? I thought so.

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  • Breesus Christ SuperstarSeptember 2, 2012 at 8:59 am

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    Anybody else starting to get butterflies about the season?
    I’ll feel better after we drop 50 or so on the Foreskins. Then at least I’ll feel like we picked up where we left off last year when we let the Lombardi get away. Time to correct that oversight.

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    • cc58September 2, 2012 at 9:57 am

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      I think if we can make it through the first six weeks without Vitt we will be OK. I f we can go 4-2 during this period, then the rest of the NFC better beware. We have a tough schedule but I like the challenge and our chances. But then I’m a lifelong homer, enjoying our new found success, and refuse to believe we will fall due to the recent adversity. And we just have to stick it to God-dell.

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      • GSO Saints FanSeptember 2, 2012 at 12:59 pm

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        THIS JUST IN:

        Until they lose a game, they’re going 19-0. IF (and I don’t believe it will happen…until it does…) they lose ONE, they’ll go 18-1.

        IT’S ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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        • Breesus Christ SuperstarSeptember 2, 2012 at 7:51 pm

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          Thats the spirit

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          • GSO Saints FanSeptember 3, 2012 at 12:51 am

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            Leave a trail of crying fans, dis-spirited teams, spontaneously pregnant women (“l swear I’m a virgin!”), and broken NFL records in our wake on the way to being the first 19-0 team and the first team to play in and win a Super Bowl in their home stadium. Oh, don’t forget being instrumental in the dismissal of the worst commissioner in the history of sports.

            A season that will be LEGEN…….wait for it….I hope you’re not lactose intolerant….DAIRY!!!

            (…yeah, maybe not all of it, but one can dream!)

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